Bibi Satnam Kaur – Simran
On January 10th, 2013 evening Panthic.org sewadars along GurSikhs from Akhand Kirtani Jatha, and several local Gurdwara committees met Sarbjit Dhunda at a private residence in Ceres, California for a discussion on various Sikhi related topics.
Before the Q&A session even started, Sarbjit Dhunda indicated that he was not comfortable having this discussion video recorded and asked for any video recording equipment to be turned off. There were about 20-25 individuals present, including keys members of various Gurdwara committees, during this discussion that lasted a little more than an hour.
QUESTION 2: (Naam Simran-Abhyaas)
PANTHIC.ORG – On a separate video you made some objectionable comments on Naam Simran and stated:
“ਢਾਈ ਘੰਟੇ ਬੈਠ ਕੇ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਕਰੋ, ਆਹ ਕਰੋ ਯਿਹ ਕਰੋ…ਕਿਸੇ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਨੂੰ ਬਾਰ ਬਾਰ ਮਕੈਨੀਕਲ ਰੈਪੀਟੀਸ਼ਨ ਚਾਬੀ ਵਾਲਾ ਸਿਮਰਨ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਨਹੀ…”
(SARBJEET DHUNDA at this time requested that we show him the video clip where he stated this words, so the sevadars provided the video clip which was then played before him on a notebook computer.)
PANTHIC.ORG – In the Sikh Rehat Maryada under the section of “ਸ਼ਖਸੀ (individual/personal) ਰਹਿਣੀ , it is stated:
“ਸ਼ਖਸੀ ਰਹਿਣੀ (੧) – ਨਾਮ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਅਭਿਆਸ – (੧) ਸਿੱਖ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੇ (ਪਹਿਰ ਰਾਤ ਰਹਿੰਦੀ) ਜਾਗ ਕੇ ਇਸ਼ਨਾਨ ਕਰੇ ਅਤੇ ਇਕ ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਦਾ ਧਿਆਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੋਇਆ ‘ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ’ ਨਾਮ ਜਪੇ”
It’s clear from the above passage that every Sikh is instructed to wake up early, partake in ishnaan, and recite the “WaheGuru” Gurmantar, and furthermore in Gubani it is stated that:
“ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥“
PANTHIC.ORG – How can you make such a statement on Naam-Simran that goes against not only the Sikh Rehat Maryada, but also against the very Hukams prescribed in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and them claim to be following Panthic Maryada?
SARBJEET DHUNDA, after watching his video in which he directly condemned the concept of Naam-Simran and the repetition of any single word as a Gurmantar, stated that his actual intention was to condemn the manner of Naam-Simran practiced by the “Tarmala” group.
PANTHIC.ORG sevadars along with committee members at that time asked Dhunda if he had made any reference to the “Tarmala” group in the video, and he admitted he had not but that was his actual intention. During this discussion he was chided by one of the committee members that he was a “kathakar” of Guru Sahib’s court, and needed to be very careful about what he says on stage and take responsibility for statements that are made as such irresponsible remarks can create doubts and divisions amongst the sangat.
SARBJEET DHUNDA at that time became defensive and stated that he purposely did not mention the name of “Tarmala” group in video because only he knows what it is like to make such remarks on stage and in such situations its not uncommon for him to receive 50-odd threats in person and via phone by the time he finishes a program and gets to his car. Another words, it was purely out of fear for his safety that he did not mention the “Tarmala” group by name.
Several individuals as that time questioned that if you are not even willing to mention the name of anyone you are questioning how can you declare yourself to be a “ਨਿਧੜਕ” or fearless kathakar?
SARBJEET DHUNDA was clearly irritated at that time, and stated that it is easy to talk about these things in these foreign countries, but not in India, ironically, admitting that he is not willing to speak the truth from various stages across India our out fear for his own safety.
SARBJEET DHUNDA now seemed baffled at all the questioning directed towards him, and became a bit defensive and resentfully claimed that in Gurbani such Naam-Simran is criticized and quoted the following verses:
“ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਨਿਤ ਕਪਟੁ ਕਮਾਵਹਿ ਹਿਰਦਾ ਸੁਧੁ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥“
PANTHIC.ORG sevadars at that time corrected Dhunda and clarified that these verses do not condemn the practice of Naam-Simran, but the practice of being deceitful and performing (ਕਪਟੁ).
If someone was reciting Sri Jap Ji Sahib with deceit in his heart, would you condemn Sri Jap Ji Sahib or the deceit itself? In the same manner how could he condemn the act of Naam-Simran?
SARBJEET DHUNDA, who was visibly uncomfortable even discussion the subject of Naam-Simran, then in the typical pseudo-Missionary style claimed that according to Gurbani Naam-Simran simply pertains to practicing good-deeds how can it be connected to a particular word or mantar?
PANTHIC.ORG – Bhai Gurdas Ji’s Vaars clearly state: “ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਹੈ ਜਪਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਖੋਈ॥“, it is obvious that recitation of “WaheGuru” Gurmantar Guru Sahib’s Hukam and a requirement of the Sikh Rehat Maryada that states “ਇਕ ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਦਾ ਧਿਆਨ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੋਇਆ ‘ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ’ ਨਾਮ ਜਪੇ”
It is clear that you do not agree with the definition of “Naam-Simran” per the Sikh Rehat Maryada, so how can you claim to follow this Maryada on stage?
SARBJEET DHUNDA clearly declined to clarify his stance on Naam-Simran, and again attempted to digress into topics unrelated to our initial query.
To be continued
Both are fake Professors, Dhunda & Autar
Picture taken @ Gurdwara Sahib Seremban, Malaysia, 2014, a strong hold of Anti Dasmes Group and they were also involved in having a private function for Inder Gaggha. Entrance to the Gurdwara for Inder Gaggha was only by invitation. In the Sikh history this has never happened before.